Thank you for the supporting comments and emails regarding the “Methinks you doth protest too much DeSio” article. We have been requested to post samples of the actual chat logs received by RFW showing some of Touretzky’s racial slurs.

Here is a portion of a chat log. Please note that Touretzky’s IP address is “~dst@Hidden_SP-679.BOLTZ.CS.CMU.EDU”. Needless to say, while he was making racist statements, he was logged on from CMU.

Note: In the chat log you will see the initials “dst”, which stands for David Stuart Touretzky.

We seem to have hit a nerve in a comment regarding John DeSio’s unflinching support for bigot David Touretzky. Indeed, DeSio displays a troubling inability to take several sentences of criticism - while uttering all manner of generalities himself. DeSio claims that he was horribly misrepresented by a comment noting that in his inaccurate and biased article based on Touretzky’s opinions, there was no denial of Tourtezky’s abiding racism. DeSio now wants to correct the record to say that he stands behind the failure to note Touretzky’s racism, because it was DeSio himself, not his “source,” who felt the evidence of racism was not strong enough to mention the matter. DeSio whines, “Touretzky did, in fact, deny he was a racist. But since the evidence charging that he was a racist is so flimsy in the first place it was not even worth bringing up.”

You be the judge. DeSio had access to all of the statements from Touretzky quoted below. Is one who makes the following comments (verbatim quotes from Touretzky) a racist?:

“There should be a video game where you can beat Rodney King.” - David Touretzky, Carnegie Mellon University Professor

“Don’t quote that scumbag Jesse Jackson, Tory, or I’ll puke in your lap.” - David Touretzky, Carnegie Mellon University Professor

Regarding former California state Senator Diane Watson, now a Member of Congress:

“Oh, she’s a ’state’ senator. Did she get elected to congress after that statement was made? So now she’s their whore in Washington? … She is the former ambassador to Micronesia! and she’s black. I should have known. What are all the really st00000pid congresswomen black?” - David Touretzky, Carnegie Mellon University Professor

Reagrding Afro-Americans:

“Washington DC is more disgusting than Harlem. .. Disgusting as in rates of illegitimacy, drug abuse, domestic abuse, shootings, prostitution, welfare culture. I think Harlem has gotten better the last few years, but DC has not. White men don’t walk in Harlem at night.” - David Touretzky, Carnegie Mellon University Professor

“Although, your remark about ‘niggers’ reminds me of an incident I’d been meaning to tell you about. .. Back before we were all posting on Usenet, we had a local bulletin board system here at CMU. And one of those boards was dedicated to no-holds-barred discussion. … I asked on this board why we had no term that was the black equivalent of ‘white trash’. Because, you know, the N-word was totally unsuitable. We needed some other term. A term that would show that the speaker drew a deliberate distinction between people of a certain skin color who behaved decently (as in ‘decent white folk’) and those who behave badly (as in ‘white trash’).” - David Touretzky, Carnegie Mellon University Professor

“Living in trailers is a white thing. Drive-by-shootings are a black thing etc. Anyway, here’s the interesting part of my story. A colleague of mine, from Texas, took grave offense at my inquiry. He said that the reason people say ‘WHITE trash’ is to distinguish it from ordinary trash, which is ASSUMED to be black. So even “white trash” is an anti-black term. Personally, I think we need a term for ‘black trash’ so that people can express disapproval of a subculture without appearing to denounce an entire ethnic group.” - David Touretzky, Carnegie Mellon University Professor

“… we have a high infant mortality rate for a developed country, but it’s not because middle class people’s babies are dying. It’s because of crack whores giving birth to high risk premies. …I’m just telling the truth.” - David Touretzky, Carnegie Mellon University Professor

“Maybe [you] know something about crack whores that I don’t. … but if you want to talk about race…. infant mortality in the US is much higher for blacks than for whites. I have no idea what the racial breakdown of crack whores is. … I’m sure that blacks are over-represented in that profession, but in terms of absolute numbers, I don’t know.” - David Touretzky, Carnegie Mellon University Professor

“I’m not racist, I’m classist.” - David Touretzky, Carnegie Mellon University Professor

“Man, Hispanics are fucked up, which is why they’re still working class. Dipshits.” - David Touretzky, Carnegie Mellon University Professor

Methinks you doth protest too much DeSio. Or do you find Touretzky’s racist comments so normal, and your defense of his bigoted statements so necessary to support your own deep hatred, that, as claimed, “it was not even worth bringing up?”

Touretzky was “interviewed” by a New York reporter regarding an issue about which Touretzky has never been able to respond: he’s a racist. Touretzky’s internet postings derogatory of Afro-Americans reveal his hatred for blacks. Touretzky considers blacks to be “really stupid”. He doesn’t like Hispanics either, who are also low-life’s in Touretzky’s opinion.

Asked by the reporter about the charges that he is a racist, Touretzky failed to deny a single one of his bigoted statements made in his favorite chat room, utilizing his typical evasion technique of asserting that his statements could not be found on Lexis-Nexis - as if that proved or disproved anything.

Touretzky’s hate propaganda campaigns are conducted under the imprimatur of Carnegie Mellon University.

“The next day I called her [Tory Christman] to talk and she said she was sleeping and asked if I could bring her some toiletries. When I went to set them outside her room, the door of the next room opened and she was sitting on the bed talking to one of her new friends [Mark Bunker]. She was in her night gown. She didn’t want to talk to me and she got angry when I questioned the motives of her new friends. I talked to her once more that night with her friends waiting in the next room.” - From a letter written by Tory Christman ex-husband.

Last Updated: Monday May 28 2007 | 10:36 AM ET Vandals slashed tires on three vehicles and left notes containing racist slurs in front of a Laotian-Canadian family’s new home in Ottawa’s west end on the weekend. “I was sick to my stomach and I’m still on an emotional roller-coaster right now …. Read the full article.

9-month sentence for making racial slurs against Seattle clerk.

See article by Eric Heyl.

Interesting incident indeed. Is this the reason why CMU won’t act against David S. Touretzky?

Carnegie Mellon President Jared L. Cohon Reappointed for Third Five-Year Term. It is hoped that he will enforce CMU’s policies with regard to David S. Touretzky.

More discrimination.

Interesting article. David Touretzky is not the only one making racial slurs.

Here is another incident of racial slurs in the home State of Arnaldo Lerma.

If you should ever speak out against some of the anti-religious extremists featured on Religious Freedom Watch you are likely to become their target for exercising your Free Speech rights.

Oliver posted the following comment:

I saw the Glenn Beck interview with David Touretzky last night and after the show I looked him up in Google. Why is he going after a religion? Whether we like it or not it is not the point. Touretzky is obsessed with Scientology and he seems to spend a lot of his time, on our tax dollars, to go after your people.

He did not come across very sincere during that interview and frankly he did not seem to be an expert either. He might be a professor but it doesn’t make him an expert on anything he says.

He is an expert in rat research i.e. he does experiments with rats and studies their behavior and reactions.

Touretzky doesn’t appear to be an expert on any religion, so why present such a fake? I really like Beck’s show but when I see such people it makes me want to switch channels. Several of my friends who were watching it with me shared my feelings.

Nothing personal as I like the Glenn Beck show and his style, but he should spare us such nut cases on his show. They have nothing to teach us really. Like Beck I am not a fan of Scientology but I don’t have anything against them either and I grew up with a firm belief that what makes this country such a great nation is the First Amendment. Though Touretzky has his right to say what he thinks he should not come on CNN using his professorial attitude to tell us about something he knows nothing about. He never told us what his field of expertise really is, and on that count he was misleading the American public.

Oliver

“You know, I don’t care if you teach reading and it’s in the bible. It’s what we used to do. I’m a little skeptical quite honestly of professors from universities and their phobia on religion.” - Glenn Beck speaking to David Touretzky.

Touretzky’s gripe with Scientology is a personal grudge because he was involved in copyright infringement many years ago and was forced to take the material down. He may be an intelligent professor when it comes to studing rat brains (which is what he does at Carnegie Mellon University), but socially, he is very childish and as pay back he goes on TV and rants about Scientology. He is abusing his position at Carnegie Mellon University and all his anti-Scientology activities are factually being paid with government grants because that’s how he gets paid.

Touretzky uses Carnegie Mellon University facilities to conduct his smear campaigns, but the University policy concerning usage of their facilities for non-academic purposes are very interesting.

Under Standards of Faculty Conduct, a Carnegie Mellon University faculty member “joins a community committed to … respect for the dignity of others.”

Furthermore:

“[t]he welfare, indeed the survival of the academic community rests on the willing consent given by its members to the principles that guide their conduct.” It also says, in addressing the right of its members “to organize and join political associations, to convene and conduct public meetings, and to advocate and publicize their views by verbal means and by public demonstration,” that CMU “is entitled to expect from them that they maintain and affirm a continuing concern for the interests of the university as a whole.”

Among “sanctionable violations of these standards of faculty conduct” are included “misuse of authority to harass, intimidate, or defame others.”

Dismissal or sanctions both require a finding of:

1. substantial neglect of duties;
…
3. moral turpitude;
4. violation of the criminal law that places the institution or members of the university community in jeopardy;
5. persistent and willful violation of standards of faculty conduct [according to the “Standards of faculty conduct”].

The policy on computer use specifically provides loss of access to computers as a separate solution for computer violations from discipline. Carnegie Mellon University Computing Policy addresses “the university’s expectations of acceptable behavior on the part of computer system users at Carnegie Mellon by providing guidelines for appropriate use of computing and related communication systems and examples of inappropriate use.” It further states that:

“These standards of acceptable behavior also extend beyond the campus community and into the Internet. Just as it is unacceptable to violate others’ rights to privacy, property and resources within Carnegie Mellon, it is also unacceptable to violate those rights on systems that are not at Carnegie Mellon but are accessible through Carnegie Mellon’s connection to the Internet.”

It was found that even some students at Carnegie Mellon University are not happy with David Touretzky as it can be seen from the website these students have created about their professor.

“You know, I don’t care if you teach reading and it’s in the bible. It’s what we used to do. I’m a little skeptical quite honestly of professors from universities and their phobia on religion.” - Glenn Beck speaking to D. S. Touretzky.

Tory Christman insists in repeating her twisted version of the facts, but her ex-husband, who tried to salvage their marriage had the following to say about what really happened:

March 8th, 2006

To Religious Freedom Watch:

I was married to Tory Christman for 26 years. She left me in July 2000 while I was away on a business trip.

When I spoke to her the night of July 19, 2000, she said she was leaving for a while and would be home in a week or two. She lied repeatedly about where she was going, and refused to talk to me any further about what was going on. When I asked her why she was leaving, she told me to call our friends and they’d tell me what was happening. She said she had to go and hung up.

I called our friends and they told me that Tory was going to Florida and would be changing planes in Chicago the next morning. I drove to Chicago and stopped at my sister’s house. She said she’d had a long talk with Tory and Tory told her that she was leaving me, saying she was leaving Scientology and was unhappy with our relationship. Tory also told my mother, step-father and brother that she was leaving me, saying it was no big deal as we weren’t getting along anyway. (All this from a woman who told me two weeks earlier that I’d thrown her “the best birthday party ever and that I was the most wonderful husband in the world.”)

I drove to the airport and met Tory as she was changing planes. I told her I’d cancelled the rest of the business trip and wanted to go to a resort and talk with her and find out what was going on. She told me she did not want to be a Scientologist anymore and that she was leaving the Church. I said, “Okay, you don’t have to be a Scientologist if you don’t want to, just don’t leave me. Let’s go away by ourselves.” She told me, “No way, my ticket is paid for, I have to go.” She then threatened to have me arrested if I “bothered” her again. I then told her I’d get a ticket and fly with her and we could talk. She repeated that she’d have me arrested if I didn’t leave her alone. I took a later flight to Florida and found her in an airport hotel.

I tried to talk to her again in private but she refused, saying she’d only talk to me in the presence of her new friends. She again threatened to call security if I insisted on talking with her away from her new friends. I took a room and invited her up for dinner and a movie. She said “maybe later” but she never called me.

The next day I called her to talk and she said she was sleeping and asked if I could bring her some toiletries. When I went to set them outside her room, the door of the next room opened and she was sitting on the bed talking to one of her new friends. She was in her night gown. She didn’t want to talk to me and she got angry when I questioned the motives of her new friends. I talked to her once more that night with her friends waiting in the next room

After that night, she was out of touch for weeks. Whenever she called me she needed money and her epilepsy medicine, both of which I arranged for her. As a side note, Tory has complained to reporters that the Church ordered her to stop taking her medication. This is a complete fabrication. She wanted to quit taking the medicine because she didn’t like it, but she was never told to do so by the Church at any time since I’d met her in 1974. In fact, she was told by the Church and by a Scientologist doctor that it was not necessary for her to stop taking her medicine.

Several months later Tory called me saying she was going to move to Florida permanently and was coming home to pack. She wanted her car serviced so she could drive it cross country. When she finally arrived home, she showed up with her friend Nancy Many who helped her set up an inexpensive divorce agreement by recommending we utilize “We the People” - a business which does this. Tory made the appointment and she wanted me to be the petitioner, as she was going to move to Florida and it’d be easier for them to contact me.

After helping her pack for a month, she decided she wasn’t going to go. She thought we could live in the house and split the rent. I agreed to this in the hopes of repairing our marriage. But in the six months we lived under this arrangement, I never saw a dime from her. I covered all the rent, utilities, phone, food, etc. During this time she tried several jobs, but never made a go of it. I helped her and coached her and set up a financial plan for her, but to no avail.

She finally left permanently.

She now has been quoted a number of times over the years as saying I left her. It is time to put this lie to rest once and for all. She left me and our 26-year marriage with no notice at all and resisted all attempts to put our relationship back together. That is a truth she can never run away from no matter how far she goes.

Harold Bezazian

Patty Pieniadz (a.k.a. Cerridwen) posts to a hate group on the Internet as “Cerridwen” and other pseudonyms. She has no other purpose in life than to spend countless hours posting the names of Scientologists with the intention of making them targets of a harassment campaign, which has caused acts of violence against individual parishioners and Churches.

On September 11, 2001, thousands of Americans were murdered in a series of terrorist attacks on the Pentagon and World Trade Center. Before a death toll could even be attempted, French anti-religious extremist, Roger Gonnet, was busy exploiting this cowardly terrorist act to spread messages of hatred using the Internet.

The BBC Panorama Exposed intro. The full documentary can be seen at Panorama Exposed.

Patricia Greenway is an anti-religious extremist who is very active behind the scenes as she personally admits in a chat room, “I’m a ‘behind the scenes’ person, remember” in harassing members of the Scientology religion and people she does not like. However, new insights give valuable revelations as to the extent of Greenway’s involvement in orchestrating and exploiting people for purposes of harassment. From the thousands of chat logs received by Religious Freedom Watch, several statements made by Patricia Greenway now shed new light as to her actual activities, agenda and extremist state of mind.

Like most of her associates Barbara Graham has a police record.

In 1984 she pleaded guilty to the manufacture/possession of a dangerous weapon per Article 12020(a) of the California Penal Code.

She was arrested in 1992 for driving under the influence (DUI), was fined $1,100, sentenced to 180 days in custody, 176 hours of community service work and 90 days restricted driving (she was allowed to drive only to work and to the court-ordered program).

“My money comes mostly from the US govt, not corporations. So if we raise taxes and hike the NSF and NIH and DARPA budgets, that would be to my benefit. … I’m already overpaid.” - David Touretzky, Carnegie Mellon University

Pamela Lichtenwalner is a school teacher from Stinson Beach, California. Documentation received by Religious Freedom Watch shows that Pamela Lichtenwalner is the “mysterious” teacher behind a series of articles on Narconon by San Francisco Chronicle reporter Nanette Asimov.

With no apparent reason, she has embarked on a one-woman crusade against Scientology and the secular programs utilizing L. Ron Hubbard’s discoveries.

Ms. Lichtenwalner is an example of how an uninformed and apparently malicious individual can be influenced by the hate propaganda of the extremists and false experts exposed on this web site. A brief review of her history reveals an individual who was ripe for such influence and that Scientologists are not the first group she has obsessively gone after.

Other people in similar positions have realized that they are being lied to and have recanted We can expect the same result once Ms. Lichtenwalner opens her eyes. Meanwhile, on the following pages is Ms. Lichtenwalner’s story.

Michael Pattinson is a former member of the Church of Scientology, now an apostate. In collusion with his former attorney, Graham Berry (who chose to have his state bar license suspended for nine months in settlement of charges against him by the California State Bar) Pattinson entered into civil litigation against the Church in an apparent attempt to force the Church to pay him money. His capacity for dishonesty and harassing conduct is demonstrated by his filing and pursuing a frivolous claim.

Pattinson left the Church in 1996 after being interviewed regarding an unchanging pattern of unethical behavior. His conduct during this interview was so rancorous that he later offered a written apology. Regardless, a year later, after having made the acquaintance of anti-religious extremist, Graham Berry, declared a “vexatious litigant” by a California court for repeatedly pursuing harassing litigation against the Church, Pattinson filed a criminal complaint against the Church which was dismissed by the State Attorney with the following statement:

“The State Attorney’s office cannot prove the charges beyond a reasonable doubt due to several reasons. First, the victim faxed an apology to both defendants for his irrational behavior during the meeting. The apology did not reference the false imprisonment or any restraint whatsoever. Secondly, there are no independent eye witnesses, physical evidence or admissions by the defendants to support the victim’s testimony. Thirdly, the victim reported this crime nearly one year after the event. The victim is clearly biased in his current efforts to sue the Church of Scientology for $150,000. Finally, the facts presented by the victim regarding the amount of restraint used by the defendants is insufficient to secure a conviction for false imprisonment.”

Following the dismissal of this criminal complaint, Pattinson and Berry filed a civil suit in May of 1998, alleging, among other things, that President Clinton, the U.S. Department of Treasury, the U.S. Secretary of State, the U.S. Special Trade Representative, two IRS Commissioners and the then Prime Minister of Russia, were part of some international conspiracy to advance Scientology across the world.

This suit was either dismissed or voluntarily withdrawn for “amendment” no less than six times. In fact, the filing and withdrawal of this complaint was the subject of a sanctions order against Graham Berry for frivolous and harassing litigation tactics.

When referring to Berry’s complaint, Judges stated:

“But let me say this to you, […] Mr. Berry, I really expect a complaint that is - has a purpose to it that is not engaged in something that goes out on the Internet which is a rambling tale of irrelevancy. […] And if we get a complaint back that is like this complaint I really am going to listen to sanctions, and consider the efforts these defendants have put into the matter up until now and in other courts in assessing the sanction award.” [U.S. District Judge Snyder, September 28, 1998]

“With all due respect, Sir, I have to sadly state that if there is such a thing on God’s green earth as a vexatious litigant you, Sir, sadly, are it.” [Judge A. H. Williams, August 20, 1999]

Pattinson eventually re-filed his suit in State Court where it, too, was dismissed, with costs awarded to the Church.

Pattinson was sued by a former colleague for refusing to pay back a loan of $25,000, plus interest. On April 20, 1999, the court granted summary judgment in favor of the plaintiff. Pattinson, rather than honoring and paying back the loan, declared bankruptcy to avoid paying a loan that was giving to him in good faith.

Pattinson’s unethical behavior continues today. He is currently being sued for $25,000 for allegedly causing a car accident and injuring the driver and passenger in the other car. The process server was unable to effect personal service on Pattinson because the home address he had given turned out to be false, while the “business address” he gave is a mail drop.

The following are just a few of the many comments made by Arnie Lerma’s “supporters”:

[Name Deleted]: “The very first time I spoke to he ‘warned’ me about Arnie..told me to ’steer clear of Lerma, he’s a nut job’….that was 2 years ago. … and he said: ‘Oh, you’ve been listening to Arnie Lerma’s crackpot theories eh?’.”

Patricia Greenway: “F-king Lermaloon.”

…

Scott Pilitik: “He seems to be getting some *world class* assistance from Arnaldo [Lerma] and has also not done too badly at all documenting hair raising corruption in the courts himself … Arnaldo will have to fill you in on all that…”

[Name Deleted]: “After 25 years or so we all sorta know what rings true.”

Scott Pilitilk: “Help from Arnie’ is oxymoronic.”

[Name Deleted]:”Arnie can only give ‘world class’ assistance in stupidity.”

Scott Pilitik:”It’s like a curse: ‘may Arnie help you’.”

[Name Deleted]: “Lerma’s more likely to communicate well with grunts.”

Here are some more comments made by Arnie Lerma’s “supporters”:

Rob Clark: “Arnie’s [Lerma] unfortunately nutz. He actually posted that psycho shit again.”

Patricia Greenway: “He DID?”

Rob Clark: “You know, if I posted something like that I would be mighty embarrassed when I woke up, sober again. Cause it would take some pretty powerful drugs and booze to get psycho enough to write a crazy piece of shit like that.”

Patricia Greenway: “Oh my god, he has no shame. Well, that’s life in George Orwell’s Animal House.”

Rob Clark: “Arnie is so whacked-out he can write a nutty piece of shit like that and then, months later, post it again, completely unaware that he’s crazier than Dorian.”

[Name Deleted]: “He has gotten more incoherent than I remember him being.”

Kady O’Malley: “I think actually, we should have a best of Lermatics contest.”

[Name Deleted]: “… I haven’t seen a single lucid moment out of him [Arnie Lerma] since before last year. … It’s rare you see something this incoherent and yet phrased in complete sentences. … Well, usually Arnie’s Lermacy isn’t in complete sentences.”

Rob Clark: “Arnie’s posting nut rants. God, Arnie is a f-ing tard how aggressively, deeply stupid he still doesn’t get that shafting your kids out of child support for decades while having access to millions is not “forgetting to dot an i.”

Patricia Greenway: “Jesse is FED up with Bunker and Lerma making up all that shit on a.r.s.”

Keith S: “I’m fed up with it too.”

…

[Name Deleted]: “This would mean that somebody would clear those posts and that refers pretty much to Arnie’s lunatic attempts to control ars.”

Keith S: “I see Lerma’s still pulling the same shit on ars.”

Bill McLaughlin: “Arnie is a one trick pony.”

Keith S: “Posting the names and addresses of scienos who notify him to remove them from his postcard mailing list.”

David Touretzky’s racism reaches Korea.

In 2002, the Department of Defense approved a $35.5 million dollar grant for Carnegie Mellon University to research ways to fight cyber terrorism. Unfortunately, one of the school’s employees had contrary intentions. Computer science professor David Touretzky started a website hosted on the university’s server that provides bomb-making instructions. To view thge complete article click here.

Watch the Channel 11 report.

In 1999, the FBI (according to recent documents) opened an investigation into Joe Lynn for allegedly ensnaring a then 15 year-old girl into participating in sex in a chat room.

In 2001, a series of private Internet Relay Chat logs surfaced on a public newsgroup. These logs appear to shed further light on Lynn’s involvement with this young girl, as well as his propensity for preying on vulnerable women in general. Among them is a log wherein Lynn conspires with a friend to avoid criminal prosecution.

Andreas Heldal-Lund’s biggest lie is, and we quote him, “People should be free to believe whatever they want, including Scientology” yet he has been attacking individual parishioners around the world for what they believe in. He has made fun of them in front of their churches, he has been harassing them over the Internet, and he has instigated and organized hate marches against them and uses derogatory language when referring to people who believe in the Scientology religion.

Heldal-Lund further claims, “My goal was to make an ultimate index to the most important information about Scientology…” It doesn’t appear he has done a very good job at it because he is so biased that he would not take down death threats hosted on his site.

Heldal-Lund states about his site that, “It is not unbiased or objective, and it never claimed it was. Why should it be?” He then welcomes visitors to read it and make up their own mind. In summary, he only offers you opinions and no facts.

Why should Heldal-Lund bother to do any facts check when his opinion says it all? Here is a man whose limited perspective of life, since he was 18, has taught him to listen to gossip, rumors, and bias, and when it comes to any members of the Scientology religion he goes out of his way to harass them with any possible means over the Internet as well as making the parishioners information available so other extremists could harass them too.

Besides never giving facts to support what he says, Heldal-Lund is a man who can’t keep his promise. Scientologists have pointed out lies that he keeps spreading but, contrary to his invitation to contact him and get these corrected, he has refused to rectify them and so lies are what Heldal-Lund continues to promote.

He claims to abhor violence yet he instigated actions that led to harassment against parishioners. He has repeatedly refused to remove serious death threats hosted on his site. One would have to conclude that he wants the death threats on his site to be materialized, otherwise any balanced individual would have promptly removed them. Heldal-Lund claims to be a responsible individual, therefore we hope he is ready to face the consequences should anything happen as a result of his hosted death threats and lies.

Finally he claims that Religious Freedom Watch doesn’t link to his site. Why should one bother to link to a site that is all opinions, has no facts, and is a platform for hatred.

Heldal-Lund portrays himself as a victim and that “lies are being spread to discredit him.” Let’s examine some of these “lies.”

Heldal-Lund claims that he was never arrested. However a photograph was obtained where Heldal-Lund and a few others are escorted by the Norwegian police while they were harassing members of the Lutheran Church at one of their celebrations. All of them have their hands behind their back. If he is telling the truth what were the police doing there and why did he have his hands behind his back as did his fellow Heathens?

So, what are these “lies” being spread about him?

That he was arrested?

That he is associated to a convicted terrorist?

That he is hosting death threats and has refused to take them down? Let’s see what his excuse is for hosting such threats.

Perhaps Heldal-Lund is so used to lie that he believes anyone else is doing the same.

Barbara Graham (a.k.a. Barb Warr) has never been a member of the Church of Scientology and has had no family members in the Church. She has never attended a Church service nor has she had any other connection to the Church, yet she vehemently attacks Scientology at every opportunity.

In a June 1999 posting, she described herself as a “Vietnam-era veteran.” And in yet another posting in 1999 she gave us insight into her viewpoint concerning religion with her statement “There is no god.”

During a chat session on the Internet with other Scientology critics Graham claimed to once have worked for the National Security Agency.

She has been in close communication with anti-Scientologists such as David Rice, whom she has picketed alongside on several occasions, Englishman Roland Rashleigh-Berry, whom she met and picketed with on a business trip to London, and known anarchist and Holocaust revisionist Arnie Lerma.